BTT EP 4
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[00:00:00] Hey, hey, hey. Welcome to episode four of Between the Tabs. This is the moodboard podcast where creativity, growth, business, and the real life things happening between it all. I'm your host, Kleidi Jeen, and we're gonna talk about the stuff that lives between work and who we are, and we're gonna do it in four parts.
So go ahead, grab your latte, grab your matcha, grab your hot chocolate. Let's hop into part one.
Now. How do you feel about being perceived, like being witnessed and the person forming thoughts and judgements about you? All of which are probably wrong because guess what? You are a complicated human with feelings, with a history, with experiences, with probably past traumas, with neurodivergence and so much more.
Yet that other human is gonna put your ass in a box and label you. [00:01:00] And you know, that's part of being human too. We have to be able to sift through information easily and label it as something whether we need it quickly or not, or something we should pay more attention to or not. If it's something that's dangerous, if it's a threat or not, this is what relating is about we are perceived and probably perceived in ways that don't actually match up with how we want to be represented.
And you know what? It's just, ah, it's just so frustrating sometimes. The thing about perception is that if you are misunderstood, once you're misunderstood, it's super difficult to ensure that you're accurately perceived.
And well actually. What you know, what is that? How are you gonna even make someone perceive you how you wish to be seen? It is not even something we can do. So even if you come to a clearer understanding, if you are able to communicate [00:02:00] more clearly that which you want to be perceived by the other person, they're still gonna see the world in their own unique way. They're still gonna have their filter, their lens put over what you are trying to express or communicate. That's just the way it is.
And I'm talking about this because I have been on a mission for years to put the way I see the world just out there into the world because I feel like somewhere out there, there's someone who's gonna really deeply, truly understand and resonate with me and the way that I see the world, and as someone who isn't the most comfy with being perceived, because I know it's just not gonna be that rich and deep perception that I want it to be.
Even still putting myself out there, being seen, this is the only way to find that resonance, to find, to vibe with other people, to feel [00:03:00] a sense of belonging in the world. Keeping it all to yourself does not do that. And so from me, I am experimenting right now. I'm in experiment mode. The blog, the podcast, the emails, the social media posts that are coming in the next, month or so, like I have been dying to get my shit together enough to be able to put my weird thoughts out there.
And, I know a lot of online entrepreneurs do it, or entrepreneurs in general do it. Because speaking of the P word, right? It's perceived that this is something that you have to do in order to be successful. And I know that for others the perception might be that, oh gosh, this is just too much. Why are people doing this? You're just putting too much of your information and your thoughts and stuff out there. And so, there's all kinds of different perceptions about blogging and creating content and putting it out there. But for me, this is [00:04:00] something that I wanna do. It's a way to allow myself to be seen as myself, or at least to put myself out there as authentically, I hate the word, like authentic as been overused, but as authentically as possible. To be witnessed as the real me, no matter what the perception ends up being like on the other end.
And so that's why I've tried this a few times actually, I've tried blogging a few times. For example, there's a first iteration of this podcast, which I left the episodes up just as documentation of my growth really. So you can see those first. I think it's 11 or 12 episodes.
You can listen to those if you want. But I tried this, like I said a few times, but I was too scared to be me. I wasn't ready yet. I was trying and I'm still trying, but I still wasn't being me. For example, years and years ago, like a decade ago, that showed up with me being super polished, trying to be cute, trying to be witty, trying to be certain things that I thought [00:05:00] would be well received.
And most recently, like I mentioned with the first episodes of this podcast, it was called, the Sunday Creative at first. And in those iterations of the podcast, I stuck to AI generated outlines instead of searching for what I really wanted to say. So the things that I said in the podcast came from me, but I was being led by an outline that AI generated, and that's still not me. Even though I was filling the gaps of the outline with what came from me internally,
it still wasn't me. And so I purposefully put my blog and my podcast in particular now in the format that they're in. So they are structured to be simple ways for me to express who I am, what I'm feeling, the experiences I have personally and with clients, and as a creative and as a business owner. So I'm being, I'm able with these formats, with these styles of blogging and podcasting to [00:06:00] express who I am and what's happening on my creative journey and what drives my work and how I see the world. So check out the blog if you haven't yet. It's called On the Precipice. And the link is here in the show notes.
And if you are not putting your work and your perspective out there into the world for fear of being misperceived, here's a nudge to do it anyway. Because when you do it and it resonates with another human, it'll resonate deeply for you. And there's something about that sense of fulfillment that you get from just really being your honest self and saying like it to, to anybody else who doesn't see the world in the way you do. It's about you expressing yourself. And there are gonna be people who that resonates with as well. And actually on this subject 'cause this is about visibility, right? This is about being seen, about being perceived and our [00:07:00] different comfort levels with that.
And so I was just thinking, as I was saying the last couple of things. A while ago I ran a free five day challenge called SEEN, you know, SEEN, like having had been viewed, perceived, , I ran this challenge called SEEN to help out with this. And from that challenge I realized I needed to revamp it a bit, and I did, but I haven't put it back out there yet.
So, if you are interested in something like this, like a challenge that's really gentle. And really helps you to move beyond the fear or frustration with being perceived to do it anyway, but without forcing it. Right. If you're interested in something like that, just shoot me the word SEEN in a DM on Instagram at Soft Sundae Studio, or send it by email hello@softsundae.com and just let me know why you think it'll help.
Now moving on to part two of this episode, I [00:08:00] wanna talk about my business a little bit. I started taking my work online in 2018. I was a museum curator, helping to run an international museum program. And I was a yoga teacher for many years up to that point, but I wasn't able to teach yoga for money for ethical reasons, with working, in the museum position that I was working in. But after being pushed out of that job, that's another story for another day. I wanted to pursue a yoga and healing career full time, and it felt to me like the big sign that it was finally time to do this.
But it wasn't until about the end of 2022 that I found this whole online entrepreneur world, like all the gurus. I had actually followed Marie Forleo since like 2016. Or maybe even earlier, but back then, her content was more [00:09:00] inspirational and she was interviewing like inspirational people. And B-School hadn't really appealed to me.
For some reason it just didn't click for me that I needed to learn how to be successful as an online entrepreneur. And it just hadn't clicked yet. I did not have a clue. And so by 2022, the online business coach, guru, whatever, world was just popping off big time. And everybody in their mama was showing you how to get Stripe dings in your sleep, how to make money in your sleep. And as a new mom in her forties, like still grieving this museum career that just kind of went away, this marketing appealed to me big time. It felt like a moment where I could finally learn how to do something that I really loved and become successful again, and like really believe in myself again and things like that.
But. [00:10:00] What happened was after following model, after model of how it all works, like this person saying it works like this. This other person saying it works like that. People talking about evergreen and low ticket and high ticket, and you have to have just one course or just one one-to-one offer.
You have to do it like this and do it, you know. Whew, all of this, I'm not gonna lie, I just kept failing. I just kept failing. None of it was working for me. But I was picking up a little crumb or two crumbs of information here, crumbs of information there. Noticing, observing what really worked for me along the way, what really did not work, what felt right in my system, what didn't feel right.
And so over the years of trying and failing, trying and failing, trying and failing, I actually learned a whole lot about the online business world and online marketing and [00:11:00] sales and offer building and more. As a matter of fact, on my about page, on my website, I tell you guys that i'm a three fifths sacral generator. And I say this because I think it's important to share that this is how I learn, this is how I master things. This is how I am able to know things truly in and out. As I experiment, I try and fail or try and succeed, and I just keep doing it, trying over and over again until I figure out exactly what works.
And so this was definitely a three fifth sacral generator moment right here. And in retrospect, what I know now is that I was trying to start in the middle. I was trying to start in the middle and not at the beginning. I wanted to because, this is what was being marketed out there as the possibility or as how you actually do things. So I wanted to build that course and somehow get those cell notifications in my sleep.
I just couldn't wait to put [00:12:00] my phone on vibrate and hear it buzzing through the middle of the night like it was Christmas Eve and Santa was on his way down the chimney. But I never did get those dings. I didn't have the right foundation.
I just did not have a foundation. Again, I was starting in the middle and not at the beginning. And so years later. That's what I'm doing now. I tried out some one-to-one offers with great success. I know I'm the person for energy sensitive creatives. Like these are the people who always come to me and who always get the most out of what I have to offer.
Like we vibe and we vibe hard. And now I'm putting together my website, one that finally makes sense for me and for you. And what's more important is that I'm doing this in my own way. Not the way some business coach or marketing coach or sales coach is telling me I need to do it again.
I've picked up enough on how things work to know what works for [00:13:00] me as well. And remembering, through trial and error before I even came upon all of these online courses and teachers and gurus, how things were working for me when I was just doing them on my own without having this kind of education.
So I'm doing it the way that I need to do in my own way. I'm also doing this in a way that honors my capacity. And honestly, that's the bigger thing that had been missing from it all, but not anymore. Not anymore. And if you want to redesign your life and work and your creative output around your capacity, that's exactly what we do in Flowmint.
And if you're interested. Go ahead, check it out. The link is in the show notes.
And that takes us to part three of this episode. You know what this one is about? Paris. I know you wanna hear about Paris. I live in Paris. Almost everybody loves Paris. I know everybody doesn't. But [00:14:00] you know, I live here and I have for the past 10 years, and honestly since about last year, I haven't really been outside like I want to because I've really been focusing on Soft Sundae and getting it to where I envision it to be. But I know you have Paris questions, so ask them. Send over an email to hello@softsundae.com to ask me what you wanna know. Okay, maybe that'll inspire me to get outside more, to get out there and maybe even take some pictures all about it or post about it on Instagram.
Living here and touring here are just so different, so vastly different. My life right now is revolved around taking my boys to school, getting home, getting to work, you know. You know, actually I'm feeling some kind of way about this. I'm feeling a way about that. I wanna see Paris.
I wanna see Paris. I wanna feel like the tourist in Paris again. I wanna go to the museums. It is spring right now [00:15:00] as I'm recording this. So, I'm feeling like I wanna do that Hot Girl Walk and Tuileries or some other cute place. I don't know. I don't know. What do you all wanna see? What do you wanna see?
This'll be Instagram content for sure. And you gotta tell me like what it is you want me to see and do in Paris. Send that email because I am gonna go to the place. I'm gonna take the pic and I'm gonna reference the person who asked for it in the post, in the Instagram post . So let me know. Okay.
Part four, last part of this episode. How many tabs do you have open? Tell me, tell me right now, like how many tabs do you have open on your computer right now. I just counted mine before I started recording this, and it is drum roll 118. I have 118 tabs open. Is that [00:16:00] crazy? Oh my God.
Is that a serious sign of Neurodivergence. I don't know. You tell me. You know what, let's dive in. Let me see here. Most of what I have. Open it is just projects that I'm working on. So I have like a thousand Kajabi taps open so that I can switch easily from, writing emails for my email campaigns, posting something on the podcast. Creating a sales page or a landing page for some, like I have those different tabs open. I have contacts tabs open. What else? Oh, I'm building my boundaries course. So I have that tab open, I have a thousand Kajabi tabs open for sure. And let's see, what else? Yeah. Oh my God, look at all these.
Speaking of Kajabi, in tandem with that, if I have a lot of Kajabi taps open because I'm working on something, that also means that I have the same amount or more. Oh my God. There's, I'm already counting [00:17:00] like 10 taps of Canva. So with Kajabi. If I'm designing something on a landing page, that means I have to have the right shaped photo or infographic or whatever for the page.
So it's like all these different shapes of things. There's the, rectangle vertical images. There's my, what's this? Yeah, there's my background, images, there's the Polaroid images, there's my blog images. There's my footer images. There's, oh, yeah, the phone mockup for the podcast. Oh my gosh, so many things.
Then I have my email inbox open here. I have some inspirational blog posts, from people whose content I love, like I love Leanne over at Passive Income Superstars. You can go check out her blog. She has some great stuff. Oh. I have this. , This video workshop, this prerecorded [00:18:00] workshop that I love that helps me figure out my newsletter from Sarah over at BTL Copy.
I have, Xanthi Applebee's, content planning template open because one day I wanna try to figure that out. I have my past launch your own way from Kelsey, McCormick. I have the launch. Planner template for that open, just like so many things. So like everything is business related for sure.
All these open tabs, I have all of these Google documents open again for the different types of content that I'm creating. So I have a website, Google Doc, which has my main, content format, so my podcast. My blog and my newsletter, like all of the positioning and messaging around those is on that.
And so I have that kind of set up for every offer as well. And so the different offers that I'm working on, I have [00:19:00] those Google tabs open. So it's lot. It's a lot. It's, but it's a lot of the same, it's all of that for business. So, yeah, just a little peek at what I have open on my 118 tabs.
Oh, I have these contacts for different magazines and online journals that I wanna write for. So after I launched my website and get my first group live course going about boundaries, I want to focus in a little bit more on just, , again, I was talking about I really wanna put myself out there not for any reason, except that I know this is gonna resonate with somebody and that will gimme a sense of fulfillment and belonging that I'm always searching for just by being myself in the world.
So yeah, what do you have? Open on your tabs. Tell me, tell me, tell me. Send me a message. Let me know. I wanna know. I'm nosy af so , for [00:20:00] real, let me know. And that was part four. So that concludes this episode of Between the Tabs and I will meet you the next time we're searching for dopamine hits between the taps, AKA next Wednesday.
Bye.
